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smokeErobinson
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« on: October 04, 2008, 06:20:55 PM »

************Revisions on my thoughts are at the end of this post**********


I have been smoking the E Cigerette for a few days now. Unfortunately I purchased another brand prior to my being interested in moving to the NJoy product because I hear it's much better. I do have my own advise though about these E Cigarettes.

They are an amazing product and I am so glad that someone finally invented a product that would allow smokers to quit while being able to "NJOY" all the qualities of smoking that keep smokers from quitting, and none of the dangers or discomforts.  however you need to understand that it is something you have to get used to. This means you need to acclimate to the adjustments it will take in not getting the cloudy feeling in the lungs that you get with real smoking and believe it or not, this is difficult at first to get used to. You have to find a daily routine in battery charge, length in which a cartridge will last you (this will depend on your smoking habits, nicotine needs and define those terms into your typical schedule and how much you smoke based on that schedule0, and how long you will be away from your supply. You can not just stop in a circle K and pick your self up a new cartridge....yet at least.

I highly suggest the drops in which you can eaisly carry a bottle to refill your own cartridge wherever you are and they are far more cost effective. I also suggest that you are to find a schedule as mentioned above and this is what I recommend everybody who is serious about quitting smoking, does with the E cigarette in order to assure it's effectiveness.

1. Get your product and read all you can about it so that you are now educated about it's function and operations.
2. Charge your batteries the full length of time suggested and more to assure that they will last to their full potential. Lithium Ion batteries are sensitive about this process in which they have memory and will have a short life span if you do not do this.
3. Smoke regular cigarettes for the rest of the day.
4. Wake up and use your E cigarette in lieu of smoking for the whole day and repeat the process the next day. (try not to smoke regular cigarettes during this day or two as to not confuse what your habit needs are in proportion to what the E cigarette can offer.
5. Day three...go back to your cigarettes and leave the E cigarette in your possession consistently until you are fully prepared to give up smoking for ever and now you will know just how much product you will need, how it functions, battery life etc.

Be ready to give up smoking!!!!!!! prepare yourself mentally for this event and DO NOT GO BACK AND FOURTH UNTIL YOU ARE READY OR YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF DOING BOTH CONSISTENTLY AND INCREASING THE LEVEL OF NICOTINE YOU GET DAILY MAKING IT HARDER TO QUIT.

Smoking and the chemicals in tobacco are linked to many different brain functions that make it very difficult to quit. Three very important neurotransmitters, physically habitual necessities and comforts. Two which are very important to understand is that nicotine enhances Dopamine which is a pleasure chemical in the brain often linked with other narcotics  such as heroine and crystal meth, but it also slightly increases endorphins which is the body's natural pain killer. Oral fixation is a Freudian concept that would take far too long to explain here so I suggest you Google "oral fixation Sigmond Freud" There are plenty of resources on the internet that will fill you into the developmental reasoning to oral fixation.

There is so much more to get into, so instead of boring the heck out of everyone I would suggest researching the effects of smoking on the body and some of the things I mentioned above so that you fully understand why you have become addicted to cigarette smoking, why it's so hard to quit. So after you educate yourself in these areas, test out the E cigarette for how it can help you overcome these obstacles of addiction, that you can finally prepare yourself to move from smoking, to E smoking and enjoy all the good stuff without all the bad stuff.

I personally am in the middle of that process, my interest in the psychological aspects of my habit are with interest of my own health and my education in Psychology and no....that does not make me special, it only affords me some ability to know a little about human function. So now that I am furthering my education and making that move to E smoking, I am very excited to be a healthier person with a longer life span.

***********************revisions of thought through experience********************

********Revisions to my post***********

All that I mentioned above, I believe to be powerfully true. However, there are some things now that have changed. I do not believe NJOY to be the best product out there and the thoughts that I originally had about battery life and having to learn and consider this for daily routines, has been addressed by at least one company called BLU cig which offers USB and battery charging "packs" in which you can carry your smoke.

The other thing that I believe to be powerfully necessary is that if you are desiring to use electronic smoking in lieu of tobacco smoking (or analog as some people are now calling it), is the process of eliminating difficulties due to smoke density. I was on this train of thought the first time I posted this but didn't cover it enough. Tobacco smoke is very dense and as I mentioned before, leaves behind tar and other residue in the lungs. E smoke is less dense and that density is one of the things which was difficult to get used to. Felt like it was not enough, I liked the density of real smoke and it's what made it hard for me to leave traditional tobacco.

How to avoid this issue and transfer habits successfully? Have you ever quit, or had to quit for a few days and the first smoke you got your hands on was an ultra light bummed from the parking lot? tasted pretty strong didn't it? This density issue is common amongst traditional smokers trying to leave full flavor and start smoking lights and ultra lights. I strongly recommend a minimum of 3 to 5 days of the patch or nicotine gum. This way, your lungs get a chance to clear out some of the build up and reset the lungs need for the denser smoke.

 E smoking gives you the oral fixation, the nicotine, the smoke inhalation which satisfies the majority of the key ingredients to this vice and it's physical and psychological functioning. However, there are over 4,000 chemicals in traditional-prepackaged-cigarettes and nicotine is not the only addictive chemical even though it's said to be the most powerful to the addiction process. In other words, the key is to eliminate as many of the difficulties in this process as possible. I personally had problems with the density and I strongly recommend trying this through your process of transferring from traditional smoking to E smoking.




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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 12:40:29 AM »

Thanks for the wonderful post SmokeE.

You make a lot of great points. The e-cig is something I too realized I shouldn't mix with regular smokes when trying to quit.

Totally defeated the purpose of me even e-smoking. The Njoy I have is more than enough. And to try and use it while smoking regular smokes just seemed stupid on my part.

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 08:01:38 PM »

I lost my E SMOKE! has anyone ever lost their cigarette and been this disappointed? Oh well....The good thing about that is that I can just order a vaporizer if need be and I'll be back in business.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 03:18:47 AM »

Oh shit!

I keep mine on a leash.

Buy another vapor-creator and call it a day. Still a bummer you can't find it yet.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 01:16:58 AM »

Thanks for the wonderful post SmokeE.

You make a lot of great points. The e-cig is something I too realized I shouldn't mix with regular smokes when trying to quit.

Totally defeated the purpose of me even e-smoking. The Njoy I have is more than enough. And to try and use it while smoking regular smokes just seemed stupid on my part.



Good points, yes, but I have to disagree on the not mixing analogs with e-cigs.  We have to remember that e-cigs are not a quit smoking device.  I'm thrilled for those who have been able to use it as such, but that's not it's creative fuction.  Yes, we have to be adult and regulate ourselves, less risk ODing on nocotine.  However, for someone like me...I do switch back and forth.  With good reason.
Part of the appeal and mass success with e-cigs is the hand and to mouth habit.  It delivers where other nic-replacements fail.  If you put too much pressure on yourself to squash analog before your ready, you risk failing (if quitting is your goal).  We each individually know what smoking means to us.  We're all the same but also oh-so-different.  So, while one may have great success in the cold turkey approach, that may be the very thing that causes another to keep puffing away.
I agree with you, eSmoke, one must truly research the chemical reasons as to why they smoke.  But don't you think Freud's oral fixation can relate to anything from drinking soda from a straw to overeating?  For many the theory has little to do with smoking.  We started smoking and our nicotine delivery system was the basic cigarette (most easily available) and not ness connected to oral fixation.  That habit of hand to mouth developed over time by way of our addiction and might never have been an issue had tobacco dealers delivered nic via a pill place between our toes.  Know what I mean?
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 01:45:00 PM »

I am looking to but an e-cig.  But I do not know which brand to get.  Any suggestions?
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 07:25:53 AM »

i bought the njoy cig. for the first two packs of cartridges it taste awful....like your smoking plastic!! after the "break in time"...your njoy taste great and gets alot of smoke! at one point i couldnt get any smoke and was extremely frustrated. i realized that when you pull out a new filter from a package their is a plastic like cover on the end. it usually stays in the cover over the cartridge but occasionally it becomes dislodged and you end up sticking it in your atomizer along with the cartridge. this will block the little fire and make your smoke much less. i had gotten two of these covers stuck in my atomizer before i found the problem. just pull them out with small tweeezers or something. anyways again...smoke a cartridge or two and that plastic factory taste goes away [and i kid you not it taste awful!!!!] and if ever your not getting smoke or just a little bit....check your atomizer and look for those little plastic covers blocking your heat source.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 07:34:41 AM »

I lost my E SMOKE! has anyone ever lost their cigarette and been this disappointed? Oh well....The good thing about that is that I can just order a vaporizer if need be and I'll be back in business.

i suggest njoy cig but i dont know about the npro. i had bought a "smokingeverywhere" ecig. the npro filters fit on my smokingeverywhere" ecig. [i had accidently bought npro cartridges instead on njoy cartridges] because the npro fit on my smokingeverywhere ecig im guessing they are the same electronic cigarette, they just put a different name on it. based on my expierience the njoy cig is better.  i posted a few things about the njoy and they are just above your question.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 07:39:10 AM »

I lost my E SMOKE! has anyone ever lost their cigarette and been this disappointed? Oh well....The good thing about that is that I can just order a vaporizer if need be and I'll be back in business.

check your atomizer...the njoy cig has these little covers on the end of the cartridge..im assuming they are supposed to stay inside the plastic cover over the cartridge when you open a new cartridge but sometimes they stay on the cartridge and you end up sticking them in your atomizer. i had lodged two in their before i figured out the problem. you can just stick tweezers in there and pull them out. i was puffing alot and hard and only got a little smoke[not even enough to exhale] the heat source wasnt getting to the fluid because of the little caps that were lodged in my atomizer..good luck.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 04:38:31 PM »

I just recieved my first e cig.  I have charged the battery for one njoy e cig and tried it out.  Wow this thing is terrible tasting.  I hope that like a poster above stated that it will get better.  At this point I think I would rather smoke a stick than this thing.  How long does it taste to get better?
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2009, 03:25:58 PM »

just got my new ecig. I hope it lasts long. i'll be stocking up on parts still though. Just in case.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 01:28:05 PM »

I love to hear about you all getting your e-cigs.  The electronic cigarette certainly is a miracle product and is changing the lives of smokers everywhere.  And for the guy who did not like the taste, it does get better.  Not only that, there are many other flavors you can get if you do not like the one that you are currently using!
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 05:28:35 PM »

I first got mine from inlife. Bad move. No customer service and 2 of the 3 components failed in the first week. I do like the pen style though. I got one the other day from China. The dse801, I think it is the same as the janty and njoy ncig. Make sure you get the battery that has the 280 mAh. You will definitely need 2 batteries. I suggest also getting a spare battery and atomizer. Definitely get a bottle of e liquid, cartridges cost too much and you have to throw them away.

I went from 2 packs a day to nothing instantly. .....a
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 04:11:11 PM »

I am looking to but an e-cig.  But I do not know which brand to get.  Any suggestions?

I know of one that is out there, I've tried the different flavors and are great! I finally was able to quit smoking by reducing the amount of nicotine to none. It is great!
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2009, 05:54:38 PM »

Thanks for the wonderful post SmokeE.

You make a lot of great points. The e-cig is something I too realized I shouldn't mix with regular smokes when trying to quit.

Totally defeated the purpose of me even e-smoking. The Njoy I have is more than enough. And to try and use it while smoking regular smokes just seemed stupid on my part.



Good points, yes, but I have to disagree on the not mixing analogs with e-cigs.  We have to remember that e-cigs are not a quit smoking device.  I'm thrilled for those who have been able to use it as such, but that's not it's creative fuction.  Yes, we have to be adult and regulate ourselves, less risk ODing on nocotine.  However, for someone like me...I do switch back and forth.  With good reason.
Part of the appeal and mass success with e-cigs is the hand and to mouth habit.  It delivers where other nic-replacements fail.  If you put too much pressure on yourself to squash analog before your ready, you risk failing (if quitting is your goal).  We each individually know what smoking means to us.  We're all the same but also oh-so-different.  So, while one may have great success in the cold turkey approach, that may be the very thing that causes another to keep puffing away.
I agree with you, eSmoke, one must truly research the chemical reasons as to why they smoke.  But don't you think Freud's oral fixation can relate to anything from drinking soda from a straw to overeating?  For many the theory has little to do with smoking.  We started smoking and our nicotine delivery system was the basic cigarette (most easily available) and not ness connected to oral fixation.  That habit of hand to mouth developed over time by way of our addiction and might never have been an issue had tobacco dealers delivered nic via a pill place between our toes.  Know what I mean?

Well that is entirely dependent on your own personal preference. If you personally choose to continue smoking, then that's exactly what you should do. I believe that most people look to the e smoke as a way to continue smoking without the many physically and socially harmful effects. If simple oral fixation were the mass appeal, you would have seen a huge boom in the marketing and sales of the smokeless nicotine inhaler sticks. The mass appeal with E cigs is in having all of the impressionability of real smoking minus the due harm.

I don't know about you, but I personally have never heard of oral fixation being directly related to drinking a soda from a straw and not so sure about it's cause of obesity. Not to say that if an individual had other physical and emotional causes to their eating habits, there may be a correlation in circumstances which could have provoked an oral fixation to be indirectly related to the eating habits...just like a smokers need for the oral fixation and how that begins. But quite honestly, every piece of literature I have read on the habit of smoking points at oral fixation being part of the habit. Hence the reason that a lot of people suck on things and chew straws or whatever they can get their hands on, as they are trying to quit smoking and I don't understand how you can deny or under rate this part of the addiction.

I think I just aught to try that nicotine pill in between the toes and write an article on it's effectiveness Wink   
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